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[chess]

I think that I might have given some people here some wrong impressions in the past. So, I'd just like to clear a few things up.
1. I am a Christian.
2. This means that I believe in one God, who expresses Himself as a Trinity of people - God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
3. This also means that I believe all other gods/godesses/deities-of-any-description are fakes, invented by humans or by Satan to trap people and keep them away from God.
4. In addition, I believe that everyone who isn't a Christian is going to Hell.
5. Understandably, I would really rather all you people didn't go to Hell. Hence, I'm praying for you. And I'm going to keep praying for you. Even if you ask me not to.

So, there we go.

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Re: Strong words, minced and all

[chess]

There are two main reasons:

1. I've had visions. Lots of coincidences have happened to me that I would have a lot of trouble explaining away any other way, but that Christianity makes into perfect sense. So it'd be a little churlish for me not to believe in God, given He's shown me so much and done so much for me.
2. On the whole, it makes sense. I mean, there are bits you can pick in the Bible, given all the translations and stuff, but it makes a lot more sense than anything else I've come across.

Re: Strong words, minced and all

[speccy67.livejournal.com]

1. I've had Locutions. In situations that they made no sense to me, because I in my irrational state at those times would not have causation to think such things.
These locutions lead me to parts of the bible that I needed in my times of need. They also sometimes were out right verbal and to the point.

2. Spiritual perspectives use to be a real big thing for me. People really don't make up a lot of things. It is a spiritual being.
Reading Edgar Cayce material really turned my blind eye back to spirituality. That was about 4 years ago. Without Edgar Cayce's materials on soul, spirit, healing etc. I wouldn't have come back into the church.

3. Presences, good and bad.

4. Chi (from Tai Chi Chuan) building lead me to some very unpleasent expiriences with beings. Jinging was interesting.
Something such as that is un-necassary for a Christian.

5. On my journey back home. Just so much began to make sense. Prayers to God for the truth, to put me where I needed to be in which ever church, lead me straight on back.

6. Reading on the saints sunk it home.
Where else do you get to find out about God's Favors? So many christians today discard the saints. These people are truly justified by God. I'm not talking about false saints like the one of the ones in the Mormon church. I am talking true pious people of God.

Re: Strong words, minced and all

[passage.livejournal.com]

Just picking up on point 6:

I think a lot of christians don't like the catholic concept of saints for a couple of reasons:

1) They know their bibles and know that in the bible "Saint" means "Christian" (see the start of many of Paul's letters for examples). So to call a select group of people saints and the rest of us not stinks of "You're not proper Christians". I know that's not how it's meant, but that's how it sounds.

2) Who exactly is the catholic church to state where people lie with regard to in the favour of God? Isn't that up to God?
And doesn't creating this specail group of people rather miss the point that we've all fallen and we all need God's grace to make it into heaven.

Please don't misunderstand me: I'm not for a moement suggesting that we should disregard the lessons of our history, or that these people weren't used powerfully by God. I just don't think a special label, this "Saint" thing is atall appropriate.

I hope that helps you understand why "So many christians today discard the saints".

Neil

Re: Saints lost

[speccy67.livejournal.com]

I've often been curious as to why people do discard the saints.

When I discovered them, I had no idea what I had been missing. Its more than hearing about these people. I heard about a few of the things they did. And did not hear as many others do not. I had to read their stories, and through those stories, which are true to the best of human ability, a world is revealed that goes against Secularism, and secular ways.

Saints are todays prophets. Saints are God's people today. Saints are those whom God has taken Favor upon.
He shows his favor on these people.
He asks them to suffer for sinners as he did, and they do.
He gives them special answers to prayers. Up to resurrection of those who have died.

God even saves their bodies, as he did Moses from Corruption.

These are more than people that "merely love God" and leave him behind on Sunday.
These beings, who we call saints, Loved God so much that they looked at the world through christs eyes, with his Love and Compassion for all of humanity.

My father (God) has yet to answer such a request for me. I have not asked, and it has bothered me in the past. For I am not worthy of such a request,.
Point to me a person such as Padre Pio, or Saint Theresa of Avila, Saint Catherine Laboure of the Miraculous medal in all of Christianity, especially protestant christianity.

Does someone love God so much, much more than their Egotistical examination of the Bible? Their amplification of what rings "true" to them? Does this not remind you of the Pharisees?


Saints:
Asking those who have passed, for signs such as healing. Those who can go before God and ask these petitions be filled, and when two healings have occurred.

These healings have to be from Certain Death, be 2 in quantity, and not had anything to do with the doctors. Who are usually dumbfounded by the healing as "Impossible". Usually in response to a request to the deceased to ask God to heal someone.

Those kind of Miracles are the type that the Catholic Church approves. And when she hears that someone asked a petition of a deceased person, they begin the quest of inquiry into that persons life.
We, you, I, all who are fallen who would hear the call are called to be saints. Make no mistake. God wants you as much as I.

What does Saint mean? Sanctus, Holy, set apart. In Latin, it is the same. Sacred.

YHWH (Yahweh, "I AM", GOD) is Sanctus, The "Espiritu Sanctus" Holy Spirit.

A SAINT is a Man or Woman of God set apart from the rest of his Church by GOD. YHWH sets him apart, we identify those who are in God's Presence, who can relate to our situation, and pray for us before God.

For us to identify this group of people, gives us the goal, what we should strive to be. As Jesus said, many others greater than he would come after him.

How can that be true without attempt at examination of people of our church? It would suggest we don't care that God would choose to set someone apart from others.