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[chess]

I think that I might have given some people here some wrong impressions in the past. So, I'd just like to clear a few things up.
1. I am a Christian.
2. This means that I believe in one God, who expresses Himself as a Trinity of people - God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
3. This also means that I believe all other gods/godesses/deities-of-any-description are fakes, invented by humans or by Satan to trap people and keep them away from God.
4. In addition, I believe that everyone who isn't a Christian is going to Hell.
5. Understandably, I would really rather all you people didn't go to Hell. Hence, I'm praying for you. And I'm going to keep praying for you. Even if you ask me not to.

So, there we go.

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Footnotes for the preceeding post

[passage.livejournal.com]

[1] Later Abraham: God gave Abraham a new name as a sign of his covenant with, and approval of, Abraham.
[2] Not an error in timing, the bible says:
"You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly." Romans 5v6
[3] For completness it should be noted that there are many stories of such people, usually they have a vision from God to which they respond, and lo and behold a confused looking Christian missionary turns up on their remote island wondering why God has told them to come here. (To be scientifically sound I ought to note that we tend not to know the stories of those who find God, but someone doesn't turn up to explain the gospel, simply from their deffintion: that they are remote and have no contact with the rest of the world. Personally I don't see that as a problem).
[4] I should clarify what I mean by 'simple faith' in this context. I mean the person who has never heard of Jesus, the kind your question is about. I think that a 'simple faith' in other meanings, can be a wonderful, powerful, and very godly thing.
[5] Alright, there are agnostics too, and I suspect they count as rejecting him but I'm not sure, fortunatly several people will probably comment giving their opinions so maybe I can work out mine from there too ;-)

Re: Footnotes for the preceeding post

[chess]

Uhm, I remember a passage about God saying He would 'spit the lukewarm from [His] mouth', or some such, as the day of judgement drew near.

*looks at bible.gospelcom.net*

Aha, that'd be Revelation 3:16, then.

Re: Footnotes for the preceeding post

[marnanel.livejournal.com]

Though that's addressed to Christians.

Re: Footnotes for the preceeding post

[chess]

True, but I couldn't think of any directly relavent examples off the top of my head. Feel free to do better :).

Re: Footnotes for the preceeding post

[passage.livejournal.com]

That's a letter to a church however, and is for people who have known about Jesus, but aren't changing their lives because of it.

And this is wrong, academic knowledge of Jesus doesn't mean much in salvation terms. (Paul: "work out your salvation with fear and trembling").

However, this debate is about people who have never heard of Jesus.

And I think God is still looking for people passionate about him, to say "I think there's a God" and just leave it at that isn't enough. It is specifically Abraham's response to God, his faith, that the bible says makes him 'right with God' (to paraphrase slightly).

So, that all said I'm not sure I completely understand the point you're making.

I do agree that being Christian is much better than not knowing about Jesus atall.

What do you think will happen to those people who have never heard about Jesus, through no fault of their own?

Neil